Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
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Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
I suggested that they could purchase the rights from Schatt and Morgan/Queen Cutlery to begin manufacturing a "plunge lock" (button open/close) version of the 1948-1957 version of the Queen pattern #25 "Jet". This "toothpick" version could be made with, or without, a manual scaling blade for fishing. It could also be made in two different sizes for pocket carry and with an optional pocket clip.
One of our best-known members has already informed me of his wholehearted approval of such a venture. This would make the "new" #25 a great "pocket companion". (Make it with a D2 steel clip point and the world would beat a path to their door). If the public insisted on a M390 steel blade, it would be a "gentleman's pocket automatic" that could serve him for the rest of his life, wouldn't it?
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One of our best-known members has already informed me of his wholehearted approval of such a venture. This would make the "new" #25 a great "pocket companion". (Make it with a D2 steel clip point and the world would beat a path to their door). If the public insisted on a M390 steel blade, it would be a "gentleman's pocket automatic" that could serve him for the rest of his life, wouldn't it?
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Re: Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
There are no 'rights" to buy.
That pattern knife has been made by almost all the knife companies over the years. Only Imperial/Hammer and Queen made the pattern in automatic.
That pattern knife has been made by almost all the knife companies over the years. Only Imperial/Hammer and Queen made the pattern in automatic.
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Re: Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
The problem is manufacturing.
Anyone with a shop these days is looking to pay rent, payroll, insurance, not keep raw material laying about.
pinching pennies everywhere they can. . . not spend any time on research and development.
Try getting someone to make a replacement tilt bolster with a different design maltese ears.
as a "kit" . . . . they don't even have to make the whole knife. . . .
There are no takers.
Every time you want to make a knife, or get a shop to make the parts,
They want to change the design to save them time, material, tooling, design work.
And your project evolves into an aluminum assisted opener.
It's really hard to find a retired shop guy who still has his fingers and a machine
who is willing to get involved with a "labor of Love" with a low return on investment.
I would LOVE an old school pearl shell wrap fish-jack toothpick. . . . .
I can't see it happening. . . . . .
I wish it would.
Anyone with a shop these days is looking to pay rent, payroll, insurance, not keep raw material laying about.
pinching pennies everywhere they can. . . not spend any time on research and development.
Try getting someone to make a replacement tilt bolster with a different design maltese ears.
as a "kit" . . . . they don't even have to make the whole knife. . . .
There are no takers.
Every time you want to make a knife, or get a shop to make the parts,
They want to change the design to save them time, material, tooling, design work.
And your project evolves into an aluminum assisted opener.
It's really hard to find a retired shop guy who still has his fingers and a machine
who is willing to get involved with a "labor of Love" with a low return on investment.
I would LOVE an old school pearl shell wrap fish-jack toothpick. . . . .
I can't see it happening. . . . . .
I wish it would.
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Re: Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
Even an aluminum-handled version would be cool.
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Re: Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
Aluminum handles, G-10 scales, and include an H-1 blade and call it the "Navy Jet"! (I also contacted Protec and Benchmade).
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Re: Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
Consider the pattern with the same Case-type construction similar to the Peanut. (Case already has the pattern and adding a plunge-lock to the pattern would be a "piece of cake"). A Stainless Steel model or D2 steel with an OAL of 4" as well as another that's 7" and then a 9" model.
I would bet any amount of money that they would sell more units than most of us would think possible. "Well-dressed" gentlemen would really enjoy a great pocket knife that opens automatically. I can see the ad copy: "What secret does the well-dressed gentleman carry in his pocket? It's the "Pocket Pal" from (Protech, Kershaw, Colonial, Benchmade, Gerber...).
These could even be sold at haberdashers in "auto friendly" states.
What could be more elegant than that?
I would bet any amount of money that they would sell more units than most of us would think possible. "Well-dressed" gentlemen would really enjoy a great pocket knife that opens automatically. I can see the ad copy: "What secret does the well-dressed gentleman carry in his pocket? It's the "Pocket Pal" from (Protech, Kershaw, Colonial, Benchmade, Gerber...).
These could even be sold at haberdashers in "auto friendly" states.
What could be more elegant than that?
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Re: Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
lol. On my way out to my local haberdasher right now.
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Re: Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
Whippersnapper: Of course you realize that Walmart isn't a "haberdasher".whippersnapper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:54 pm lol. On my way out to my local haberdasher right now.
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Re: Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
Of course I know it is a Dollar Tree.
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Re: Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
What is a haberdasher anyway?
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Re: Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
Today, the oft-used term is "Fine Men's Clothing" or "clothier".
In the United States, the term refers instead to a retailer who sells men's clothing, including suits, shirts, and neckties.
This haberdasher is a favorite of mine and has been since 1975. http://www.johnhelmer.com/
John Helmer Haberdasher (since 1921) is located at 696 SW Broadway, Portland, OR 97205 (at the corner of Broadway and Salmon streets).
John Helmer Haberdasher Inc.
969 SW Broadway
Portland, OR 97205
(503)223-4976
Toll Free (866)855-4976
www.johnhelmer.com
(503)223-4976
This is not only where I have bought several bowlers, but where you can still by spatterdashes (a.k.a. spats) and expensive shoes and socks. Their suits can run into several hundred dollars to $1000.00 + for custom-tailored outfits. (This isn't the Men's Wearhouse). A good tie will run you $150.00 and a decent shirt begins at $125.00 (+).
No, a good haberdasher can outfit a man with the most discriminating taste with precisely the clothing he needs for any occasion. Sadly, when it comes to men dressing well, our society has been revolving into "Lower SLOBbovia".
Here's the 1948 magazine ad for the Queen #25 "Jet".http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WpHaS4iE4p8/V ... %2Bads.jpg
In the United States, the term refers instead to a retailer who sells men's clothing, including suits, shirts, and neckties.
This haberdasher is a favorite of mine and has been since 1975. http://www.johnhelmer.com/
John Helmer Haberdasher (since 1921) is located at 696 SW Broadway, Portland, OR 97205 (at the corner of Broadway and Salmon streets).
John Helmer Haberdasher Inc.
969 SW Broadway
Portland, OR 97205
(503)223-4976
Toll Free (866)855-4976
www.johnhelmer.com
(503)223-4976
This is not only where I have bought several bowlers, but where you can still by spatterdashes (a.k.a. spats) and expensive shoes and socks. Their suits can run into several hundred dollars to $1000.00 + for custom-tailored outfits. (This isn't the Men's Wearhouse). A good tie will run you $150.00 and a decent shirt begins at $125.00 (+).
No, a good haberdasher can outfit a man with the most discriminating taste with precisely the clothing he needs for any occasion. Sadly, when it comes to men dressing well, our society has been revolving into "Lower SLOBbovia".
Here's the 1948 magazine ad for the Queen #25 "Jet".http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WpHaS4iE4p8/V ... %2Bads.jpg
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Re: Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
At those prices I'll stick to Walmart.
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The Chinese sweatshops are certainly grateful that you do. (Clean up on aisle 5). I'll have your favorite graphic t-shirt pressed for a formal outing.
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Re: Yesterday I submitted a suggestion to Colonial Knife Company.
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Fishtail ~ Just curious.... did the Helmer store survive all of the "mostly peaceful protests"? (as described by David Muir. The idiot.)
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Fishtail ~ Just curious.... did the Helmer store survive all of the "mostly peaceful protests"? (as described by David Muir. The idiot.)
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Yes, John Helmer has been at the same location since 1921. I love the people (the family has owned the store since it first opened. They have survived horrific weather (Columbus Day,1962) and now the recent civil unrest.button_man wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:40 pm .
Fishtail ~ Just curious.... did the Helmer store survive all of the "mostly peaceful protests"? (as described by David Muir. The idiot.)
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They are a true Portland, OR institution.
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