Is this real or counterfiet?

[whippersnapper]

[All a man really has is his reputation.quote]
yep

[brickstattoo]

Crazy to see you bashing another person in the hobby doing good work. Seems a little bitter to me.

The "Roadside Imports guy" was Jonathon Benson.

Benson sold many faked knives as genuine. He was also a very unlikeable man, as anyone who ever had a problem with him could attest to. The person that built all his counterfeit knives was Chad Ruben. Ruben to this day is still mangling knives and selling them to people who don't know better.

When I took offense to their dishonesty, I incurred the wrath of both. Benson started selling Chinese clones of the Leverletto, and acquired the Leverlettos.com web site name. I already had Leverletto.com, which was directed to the AKC site.

I was told that Benson was arrested for manslaughter some years ago, leaving Ruben with quite a few parts. I understand Ruben is now assembling knives for Dolphins. Perhaps they don't know his past. Perhaps no one else is dull enough to think importing autos is a good idea.

Many people, myself included, have worked to legitimize automatic knife collecting, and have worked to legalize it. Those two reveled in the illegal aspect of knives-something akin to the thought process of a 15 year old boy. They gave/give automatic knife collecting a bad name.

All a man really has is his reputation.

[Bill DeShivs]

Bitter? No.

I just think making counterfeit knives to sell to unknowing people is wrong, don't you?
Or, do you think it's OK to sell a counterfeit knife that I designed and have copyrighted the name of for 6 times what they cost from China?

I have built a reputation by being honest and doing good work. I have no time for dishonest people.

[Tom19176]

Crazy to see you bashing another person in the hobby doing good work. Seems a little bitter to me.

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The persons Bill was writing about had issues with many collectors. I am totally against counterfeit items of all types. No excuses for selling them....

[button_man]

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bricks -- in what way are counterfeiting, deception,
and price-gouging "good work"?

Sounds to me like the people involved are known to you.... business associates, personal friends, maybe a relative.... something.

Why else would you attempt to defend criminal fraud?
You seem as morally bankrupt as the perpetrators.
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[sammy the blade]

It's a real counterfeit. And the seller is an as...... rectum.

You're being too nice about it.

[Bill DeShivs]

I actually spoke to Gunbroker's attorney about him.
Since they are only a broker, they claim no responsibility for truth in customers' ads.