How to close a Trapdoor
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- Belmont800
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How to close a Trapdoor
Hi Bill, I have a IRN Trapdoor. As you know, the tip of the blade sits out of the handle a tiny bit, and you use the trapdoor to manually "cock" the blade to use as a SA OTF.
As you push the trapdoor against the tip of the blade to cock it, the natural tendency in the design is for the trapdoor to press on the tip of the blade, "tipping" / dulling the tip.
Is there anything that can be done to remedy this? ---other than not cocking the knife to fire ever??
Thank you Bill!!!
As you push the trapdoor against the tip of the blade to cock it, the natural tendency in the design is for the trapdoor to press on the tip of the blade, "tipping" / dulling the tip.
Is there anything that can be done to remedy this? ---other than not cocking the knife to fire ever??
Thank you Bill!!!
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
This is a common problem with OTFs. You could get a piece of very hard wood like bamboo, and push the tip in with it and then close the trapdoor.
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
Good idea will try that... Time to take a hike to the bamboo patch!
Thank you Bill!
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
Don't cut yourself.
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
are you going to post a pic ?
Belmont800 wrote:Good idea will try that... Time to take a hike to the bamboo patch!
Thank you Bill!
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
Some synthetics [like delrin also are o.k.Bill DeShivs wrote:This is a common problem with OTFs. You could get a piece of very hard wood like bamboo, and push the tip in with it and then close the trapdoor.
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
Vagrant wrote:Some synthetics [like delrin also are o.k.Bill DeShivs wrote:This is a common problem with OTFs. You could get a piece of very hard wood like bamboo, and push the tip in with it and then close the trapdoor.
Thanks for the additional tip Mr. Vagrant, where would I find a piece of Delrin scale? (other than pulling one off of another knife) I could definitely order one, however Is this something my hardware store may have?
Thank you. - Best - Dan
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
I have no clue One place I used to work we used a lot of it, when I need a piece [for something] I'd bring a piece of scrap home I'm out, or I'd send you a piece.Belmont800 wrote:Vagrant wrote:Some synthetics [like delrin also are o.k.Bill DeShivs wrote:This is a common problem with OTFs. You could get a piece of very hard wood like bamboo, and push the tip in with it and then close the trapdoor.
Thanks for the additional tip Mr. Vagrant, where would I find a piece of Delrin scale? (other than pulling one off of another knife) I could definitely order one, however Is this something my hardware store may have?
Thank you. - Best - Dan
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
I would think any piece of med/hard plastic would do it as well. Or the scale on one of those tiny SAKs.
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
delrin is fairly cheap you can find it a mscdirect.com the shipping might cost more tham the material. and they have next day delivery at no extra charge. order before 4pm and have it tomorrow.
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
Excellent! Thanks guys, I am off to order a piece of delrin at mscdirect.com to go with my bamboo piece.
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
I've often wondered why they designed those trapdoor OTFs so you have to push metal onto the tip of the blade to close it. The only thing I can imagine is that they never intended it to be a collector's item when they were originally made. Like Rizzutos, they probably just intended them to be dime-store pieces which wouldn't last more than a year or two.
I don't have a TD of my own but I've considered that you might be able to put a small piece of electric tape on the underside of the trapdoor to lessen the brunt of the metal on the tip.
I saw someone demonstrating their TD by firing it. But the left the trapdoor shut when they fired it so the tip of the blade pushed it out of the way when it opened. It kind of pained me to watch that happen.
I don't have a TD of my own but I've considered that you might be able to put a small piece of electric tape on the underside of the trapdoor to lessen the brunt of the metal on the tip.
I saw someone demonstrating their TD by firing it. But the left the trapdoor shut when they fired it so the tip of the blade pushed it out of the way when it opened. It kind of pained me to watch that happen.
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
Agreed on several fronts. These are at best letter openers, at worst very interesting discussion items. Its pretty simple really, it you want to keep the tip original and intact, the best way is just to never use it I have found. Even Delrin seems to dull the tip, (Bamboo is good when its young and green but gets tough like Delrin when it dries (I have found both of these out through trial).
Lets just say .. don't take a vintage Italian TD hunting
I think tape would lessen the impact, but the tip would poke through quickly and you would be back to metal - on - metal, the force needed to cock one of these is surprisingly great.
Lets just say .. don't take a vintage Italian TD hunting
I think tape would lessen the impact, but the tip would poke through quickly and you would be back to metal - on - metal, the force needed to cock one of these is surprisingly great.
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Re: How to close a Trapdoor
Is firing it with the door shut, so the blade throws it out of the way, as bad for the tip as it looks?Belmont800 wrote:I think tape would lessen the impact, but the tip would poke through quickly and you would be back to metal - on - metal, the force needed to cock one of these is surprisingly great.
And what if you used something that didn't push on the tip but kind of grabbed the sides of the top of the blade and then pushed it down. Could you use something like a rubber-padded pair of tweezers to clamp it and push it all the way in?
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