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Info on batwing

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Need help identifing my rare batwing stiletto.
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I can't figure out how to put a pic on here.
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You have to crop the pics to less than 1GB.
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I can't do the pic but I have a rare stelleto 7.5 with .blk handles brass buttons. Only marked stainless steel on the blade. This is a pre rizzuto knife I was told.
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A Japanese pre-Rizzuto sounds like a 1950's Japanese picklock. But, wouldn't have batwings , referring to swinguards. Looking forward to pics...
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JulesVane wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 2:54 am A Japanese pre-Rizzuto sounds like a 1950's Japanese picklock. But, wouldn't have batwings , referring to swinguards. Looking forward to pics...
It is a batwing with swinguards. If I could txt a pic maybe someone more computer savey then me can post the pics.
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You are looking for information, but you have already decided the knife is rare?
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email the photo to katrencik7@verizon.net

I will resize it and post it

I don't understand the term Pre-Rizzuto, , , and I've seen a lot of images.

other than the lock-back swingguards that look identical to Rizzuto's
I thought the coffin bolster or the step bolster Rizzys were the 1st gen.
They had really thick bolster metal, and thick brass liners.
Generally, as production increases, cost cutting becomes dominant.

and that the moustache guard and the bat wing guard came later.
like the wasp waist rizzy ( fly-lock ) and the finger groove rizzy.

I would post examples, but I don't have access to my Image CD collection
as I am currently not at home.
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Early step bolster rizzy . image by Rizzoman64
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early english one piece straight guard

and composite photo of rizzy guards. . . .
notice ball end guards often have minor elliptical variations
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Neil Punchard image. . . may be removed . . . publication permission not yet requested
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Walt Halucha / Latama LLC image. . . may be removed . . . publication permission not yet requested
This image is proprietory. . all rights reserved.

This is an idea sheet for potential swing guard designs. . .
the names of styles are arbitrary and not official.
CAMP = Campolin
Klingon = may be trademarked under different name by another custom knifemaker

Since there are easily 10 different types of bat-wings and different sizes / proportions. .
I would hope that maybe a concensus of names might be discussed.
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P.I.C. swing guard flick knife from my personal collection. . next to a standard 9 inch.
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Great info on rizzies and guards jerryk25

I learned a few things from it aswell so thanks .
Really like the bottom swinger you posted ,nice and unusual .
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