Double Markings and overlaid sear hole

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button_man
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Double Markings and overlaid sear hole

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Somebody has offered me this piece for $150, claiming that it was brought back from Italy in 1963. I have never seen 'ITALY' marked on both sides of the ricasso; much less with a sear hole that is overlaid onto this marking. (Also, the bolsters appear not to be nickel silver, so they may be more modern.) Any input would be much appreciated.
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That knife wasn't thought of in 1963!
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Re: Double Markings and overlaid sear hole

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Very odd placement of the tang stamps. I have not seen them so far above the bolsters before.
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I suspect the markings were done with a cheap laser and marking paint-and were done here in the US.
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Re: Double Markings and overlaid sear hole

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At least the scammer spelled Italy right.
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Re: Double Markings and overlaid sear hole

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The font looks like courier. I don't recall seeing many Italian knives using that font.
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Re: Double Markings and overlaid sear hole

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Note the year mentioned in the seller's earlier email:

Mon. 10:57 am >>> "It was brought back from Italy in 1963. It's all authentic."

I informed the gentleman of the information contained in Bill's posts, and he replied as follows:

Tues. 8:44 am >>> "It sold last night on Etsy for $125. Good luck with finding cheap Knives."

Tues. 8:53 am >>> "I bought it myself in Italy in 1968, so your so called expert is full of shit. Don't bother me again!"

This is not the first time I've seen a scammer turn snide, defensive, and belligerent when called out.
This guy couldn't even keep the year consistent in less than a 24-hour period.
I feel sorry for the unfortunate buyer who got duped by the false claims.

Thanks to all --and especially Bill-- who contributed their observations. Very much appreciated!
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Re: Double Markings and overlaid sear hole

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The knife is Italian imo, but maybe not quite as old as they said.

I wouldn't pay $125 but that probably wasn't a total rip off.
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This guy couldn't even keep the year consistent in less than a 24-hour period. . That says it all.

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Look at the silver lining. The stag handles look pretty nice. 😮
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Some people hate the truth, because they actually believe their own story.
Others are just crooks.
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